El Tee
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Re: Just Announced
July 22, 2011 at 04:54 PM UTC
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walkonby wrote:
what is going to happen when the line up looks awesome? awesome i say. will everybody here bitch just to bitch because is it not 930?
"just announced at the fillmore for dec."
beastie boys opening for flaming lips opening for david bowie opening for clutch
"responce from 930 forum . . . meh."
exactly. I'm Team Seth/930 - but most, if not all of those bands, have played 930 and some of you have gone to see them. (I am curious how acts will trade which venue they are booked… the trend is usually 4 mths/6 mths/ year as far as touring & alternating city. just hope artists/bands that frequent 930, their labels/reps will continue to book them at our ;) club)
sweetcell
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Re: Just Announced
July 22, 2011 at 05:02 PM UTC
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those bands played the 930 previously because 930/IMP was the only game in town. now that LN has its own venue, i believe there is going to be a split: you're either a LN band and only play the FSS, or you're an independent/non-LN band (or a few with long-standing relationships with seth) and they will plan the 930. i don't think you'll see much ping-ponging between the venues.
hutch
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Re: Just Announced
July 22, 2011 at 05:10 PM UTC
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what people need to remember is that the filmore capacity is 2000 not 1200!
people talk about them as if they are interchangeable…
The capacity difference has major implications as does the fact that LN has similar venues up and down the east coast/nation and will be telling acts it can offer them a package of tour venues…
I think people are really not thinking about it clearly on this board… Live Nation is the biggest concert promoter in the world.. IMP has been killing them locally but this will have a big impact on that competition.. I wonder if IMP is thinking about a bigger venue..
also remember there are a lot of people out in MD who don't want to drive in to DC or deal with DC and the Fillmore is just a mile or so off of 495..these people may not be going to concerts now but maybe they will now that the Fillmore is opening..
azaghal1981
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Re: Just Announced
July 22, 2011 at 06:12 PM UTC
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Sweet poop sandwich of a lineup they have got there.
I mean the Club has next to nothing going for it until September but if this is what we are to expect of the Fillmore's fall lineup, I am pretty sure Seth can sleep easy.
HoyaSaxa03
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Re: Just Announced
July 22, 2011 at 07:20 PM UTC
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jens lekman @ 6th & I on October 5, on sale today
mdh9857
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Re: Just Announced
July 22, 2011 at 07:22 PM UTC
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walkonby wrote:
what is going to happen when the line up looks awesome? awesome i say. will everybody here bitch just to bitch because is it not 930?
"just announced at the fillmore for dec."
beastie boys opening for flaming lips opening for david bowie opening for clutch
"responce from 930 forum . . . meh."
If the lineup looks awesome, then I will go to the show. I don't think a lot of people here are necessarily bashing the venue as a whole and without basis. It's purely the lineup they've announced, it's a huge letdown in my opinion.
You're Live Nation, and you're opening a new venue, you announce a batch of shows that blow everyone's socks off. You don't announce shows that aren't going to generate as much excitement. That's great they booked Blondie, Lewis Black, etc, I'm sure they'll sell, and they are solid shows. But for a opening you come out guns blazing. Announce big acts, popular acts, and show the public that you have talent to book and draw. They didn't do this, and they have bad word of mouth at the start because of it.
They can obviously change that by booking a few good shows, but they need to suprise me, otherwise I'll stay whelmed.
Unsanity
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Re: Just Announced
July 22, 2011 at 07:45 PM UTC
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8 More bands announced for Maryland Deathfest 2012. Mostly Things I never heard of except.
GODFLESH…!
DeathFromAbove1979
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Re: Just Announced
July 22, 2011 at 08:00 PM UTC
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mdh9857 wrote:
walkonby wrote:
what is going to happen when the line up looks awesome? awesome i say. will everybody here bitch just to bitch because is it not 930?
"just announced at the fillmore for dec."
beastie boys opening for flaming lips opening for david bowie opening for clutch
"responce from 930 forum . . . meh."
If the lineup looks awesome, then I will go to the show. I don't think a lot of people here are necessarily bashing the venue as a whole and without basis. It's purely the lineup they've announced, it's a huge letdown in my opinion.
You're Live Nation, and you're opening a new venue, you announce a batch of shows that blow everyone's socks off. You don't announce shows that aren't going to generate as much excitement. That's great they booked Blondie, Lewis Black, etc, I'm sure they'll sell, and they are solid shows. But for a opening you come out guns blazing. Announce big acts, popular acts, and show the public that you have talent to book and draw. They didn't do this, and they have bad word of mouth at the start because of it.
They can obviously change that by booking a few good shows, but they need to suprise me, otherwise I'll stay whelmed.
Mary J. Blige is huge. Not hat I like her, but she is.
StoneTheCrow
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Re: Just Announced
July 22, 2011 at 08:11 PM UTC
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Wait…..did someone say Godflesh?
travelinbeat
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Re: Just Announced
July 22, 2011 at 11:51 PM UTC
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hutch wrote:
.. I wonder if IMP is thinking about a bigger venue..
What ever happened to Seth's DC Armory consideration? Wasn't there some buzz of IMP purchasing that place?
betao
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Re: Just Announced
July 23, 2011 at 12:53 AM UTC
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Primus, Mary J Blige, Psychedelic Furs/Tom Tom Club, and Blondie are pretty solid bookings imho. I mean it's not an OMG STELLAR lineup, but I feel alot of hatred sent towards its way is just people wanting to side with the 930 out of loyalty. I love the 930 and the shows they get, but ultimately it's about the music for me; I'll see my bands wherever they play, unless I have some deep irreversible hatred for a place that would prevent me from ever attending it - which I don't have towards anywhere right now.
I think it's decent for an opening. They have competition in DC, and booking big name acts isn't as easy as just saying "lets get this lets get that."
azaghal1981
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Re: Just Announced
July 23, 2011 at 02:07 AM UTC
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Male Bonding
Red Palace
9/10
sweetcell
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Re: Just Announced
July 23, 2011 at 04:05 AM UTC
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betao wrote:
booking big name acts isn't as easy as just saying "lets get this lets get that."
right - it's not like the FSS is owned by the largest booking and talent management company in the country or anything like that.
azaghal1981
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Re: Just Announced
July 23, 2011 at 04:22 AM UTC
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Maybe they are trying to appeal to a blander middle of the road type crowd?
Waiting for the big Matchbox 20 reunion show in which they play their first album whose name I am too lazy to look up in its entirety announcement.
betao
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Re: Just Announced
July 23, 2011 at 04:48 AM UTC
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sweetcell wrote:
betao wrote:
booking big name acts isn't as easy as just saying "lets get this lets get that."
right - it's not like the FSS is owned by the largest booking and talent management company in the country or anything like that.
I'm just saying - we all know it works around touring schedules/availability and stuff, and having to compete against the 930 doesn't help either. Given the circumstances, I think it's a decent start.
sweetcell
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Re: Just Announced
July 23, 2011 at 05:32 AM UTC
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betao wrote:
sweetcell wrote:
betao wrote:
booking big name acts isn't as easy as just saying "lets get this lets get that."
right - it's not like the FSS is owned by the largest booking and talent management company in the country or anything like that.
I'm just saying - we all know it works around touring schedules/availability and stuff, and having to compete against the 930 doesn't help either. Given the circumstances, I think it's a decent start.
i know, i get what you were saying. sorry for the sarcasm.
not sure i agree with "having to compete against the 930". sure, until recently 930/IMP were the Big Boys in town. but the FSS has been a long time coming, they've had plenty of time to plan for this, and in a head-to-head i don't think LN/FSS is the underdog. it's open to interpretation, but 930 fired a volley over the bough of LN with its sept/oct lineup. i don't get the feeling that the FSS replied with as much gusto. if they wanted to make a statement, they could have pulled more. they definitely haven't booked nobodies, but they haven't exactly come out guns blazing. shows a certain lack of commitment, IMO. more like just limping in. maybe it's hubris (they are goliath, after all). maybe they just don't care.
travelinbeat
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Re: Just Announced
July 23, 2011 at 05:39 AM UTC
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Those are interesting points you both make, but I do feel that it's also worth considering that perhaps the most frequent criticism leveled against LN is some variation of the fact that they're greedy, and with that having been said, if they were to drop Jay-Z or someone like that into a 2,000 person club, they'd be losing money (vs touring him through a venue of fitting size). I think it's a fine line that they're skating to try and get big names in there while not choking out potential revenue they'd make by hosting these acts elsewhere. To that end, I think the opening month or two is a pretty respectable spattering of several genres and decent sized names from each.
TheREALHunter
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Re: Just Announced
July 23, 2011 at 05:56 AM UTC
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hutch wrote:
what people need to remember is that the filmore capacity is 2000 not 1200!
people talk about them as if they are interchangeable…
The capacity difference has major implications as does the fact that LN has similar venues up and down the east coast/nation and will be telling acts it can offer them a package of tour venues…
I think people are really not thinking about it clearly on this board… Live Nation is the biggest concert promoter in the world.. IMP has been killing them locally but this will have a big impact on that competition.. I wonder if IMP is thinking about a bigger venue..
also remember there are a lot of people out in MD who don't want to drive in to DC or deal with DC and the Fillmore is just a mile or so off of 495..these people may not be going to concerts now but maybe they will now that the Fillmore is opening..
I know the 2000 capacity has been thrown around before but according to their own site it appears that the capacity is 1100 (plus another 50 who can mingle in the stylin' VIP lounge haha)
http://specialevents.livenation.com/venue/fillmore-silver-spring-silver-spring-md
kosmo
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Re: Just Announced
July 23, 2011 at 01:05 PM UTC
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kindly move all discussions to the numerous threads already setup regarding that new venue…
DotTheEyes
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Re: Just Announced
July 25, 2011 at 12:46 PM UTC
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Laura Marling
Sixth & I Synagogue
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