nkotb
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Re: Just Announced
October 14, 2025 at 06:51 PM UTC
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Pinkshift
Ottobar
Friday Jan 16th
bunnyman
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Re: Just Announced
October 14, 2025 at 07:48 PM UTC
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Peaches
2/27/26
Hutch
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Re: Just Announced
October 15, 2025 at 01:34 PM UTC
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Culture Club
MGM
2-25
Space Freely
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Re: Just Announced
October 15, 2025 at 06:00 PM UTC
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Sugar
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Re: Just Announced
October 15, 2025 at 07:38 PM UTC
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dry cleaning
tue feb 3
BLACK CAT
grateful
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Re: Just Announced
October 15, 2025 at 09:18 PM UTC
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Gogol Bordello
12/27
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Hutch
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Re: Just Announced
October 15, 2025 at 09:44 PM UTC
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grateful wrote:
Gogol Bordello
12/27
Nevermore
They love Baltimore lately…
Sidehatch
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Re: Just Announced
October 16, 2025 at 02:23 AM UTC
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I could bet my bottom dollar that Challanged will be at this show

Hutch
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Re: Just Announced
October 16, 2025 at 02:38 AM UTC
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Sounds challengy…
Sidehatch
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Re: Just Announced
October 17, 2025 at 04:43 AM UTC
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The last diner party
Anthemed
jeffml
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Re: Just Announced
October 17, 2025 at 07:09 AM UTC
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Isn't that the show that all the creepers attend……Space?
PlenaryHatch wrote:
The last diner party
Anthemed
Space Freely
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Re: Just Announced
October 17, 2025 at 01:08 PM UTC
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Cock wrote:
Isn't that the show that all the creepers attend……Space?
PlenaryHatch wrote:
The last diner party
Anthemed
Pretty sure Hatch is a fan.
Sidehatch
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Re: Just Announced
October 17, 2025 at 02:17 PM UTC
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I don't know what it is, but some people here and in my personal life, just live on this line of reasoning
"you like these bands with young girls because you are a creeper"
I know this is a me thing and just need to ignore the haters
but I feel my track record shows I love music of all types. In the last decade, that taste has favored female fronted/female based bands/songwriters. For the previous 30 years, I pretty much ignored 98% of female contributions to music in my personal listing
and let me be clear, there is a ton of output by females that is outright garbage and I don't support at all
Also, the best/innovative music typically comes from the young (at least the stuff I like)
But it's never been about 'old dude wanting to creep on young women' vibe for me
Do I love beauty and attractive people, hell yeah I do
Do I think someone who is willing to get up in front of an audience and perform 10X more attractive, yes I think that is a very attractive trait …male or female
But I'm there for the performance, the talent, the music, that the performer is hot is near the bottom of my criteria
but I for one am not there to creep
again I realize this is my own insecurity on this topic, but just felt the need to get it out of my brain
and yes I love the last dinner party's first album and it's been on heavy rotation
but I put it on and listen and don't oggle photos of them as to why I like them
nkotb
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Re: Just Announced
October 17, 2025 at 02:28 PM UTC
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Real "doth protest too much, methinks" vibes
Space Freely
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Re: Just Announced
October 17, 2025 at 02:34 PM UTC
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PlenaryHatch wrote:
I don't know what it is, but some people here and in my personal life, just live on this line of reasoning
"you like these bands with young girls because you are a creeper"
I know this is a me thing and just need to ignore the haters
but I feel my track record shows I love music of all types. In the last decade, that taste has favored female fronted/female based bands/songwriters. For the previous 30 years, I pretty much ignored 98% of female contributions to music in my personal listing
and let me be clear, there is a ton of output by females that is outright garbage and I don't support at all
Also, the best/innovative music typically comes from the young (at least the stuff I like)
But it's never been about 'old dude wanting to creep on young women' vibe for me
Do I love beauty and attractive people, hell yeah I do
Do I think someone who is willing to get up in front of an audience and perform 10X more attractive, yes I think that is a very attractive trait …male or female
But I'm there for the performance, the talent, the music, that the performer is hot is near the bottom of my criteria
but I for one am not there to creep
again I realize this is my own insecurity on this topic, but just felt the need to get it out of my brain
and yes I love the last dinner party's first album and it's been on heavy rotation
but I put it on and listen and don't oggle photos of them as to why I like them
Pretty much the same.
All of my "Best of" lists for the last 5+ years have been female dominated. I just think females are putting out the better music these days. If you look at Metacritic and year end critic lists, others seem to think so as well.
Being in an otherwise female household helps too. My daughter pretty much just listens to women singers and my wife pretty much despises all men, so maybe those things influence as well.
That said, there's so much good music out there that nothing makes it into heavy rotation for me for too long. I listened to the last Last Dinner Party album maybe a half dozen times (and liked it a lot), but moved onto other stuff. New album is coming out, I:'ll see how that one goes.
I do notice if an artist (female or male) is visually appealing. To me it adds to the appeal. As Tammy said, After all, I'm just a man,.
Sidehatch
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Re: Just Announced
October 17, 2025 at 02:56 PM UTC
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nkotb wrote:
Real "doth protest too much, methinks" vibes
I almost ended my post with that
but I've just encountered this response so much about my choice in music and just felt the need to get this off my chest
Hutch
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Re: Just Announced
October 17, 2025 at 04:54 PM UTC
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It’s a complex issue. Above my pay grade.
My disparate current thoughts
-traditionally a rock and roll star was someone either everyone wanted to fuck or be; see Bill Graham’s description of Otis Redding live in his autobiography
- society has changed and some taboos are rather new. Witness Woody Allen’s Manhattan where the Woody Allen character- in his mid 30s- is openly dating a girl still in high school (played by Mariel Hemingway)
-We do not consciously know what we are thinking in our deepest crevices. For thousands of years there were not these taboos that exist today. Incest for example was far more common (according to genetics studies). There may be a repressed longing for youth that we cannot understand or accept.
-Youth is beautiful in it of itself. Youth is sexy. Just looking at youth can make an old man feel alive. Don’t people long for their youth?
Hutch
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Re: Just Announced
October 17, 2025 at 04:57 PM UTC
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I think as far as modern societal standards as long as we don’t publicly objectify women (young or otherwise) men are on solid ground.
Space Freely
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Re: Just Announced
October 17, 2025 at 05:45 PM UTC
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I don't know, I find people in their 30's and early 40's to be the most attractive.
And the members of the Last Dinner Party are 25-29, so it's not like we're talking about teenagers here.
Sidehatch
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Re: Just Announced
October 17, 2025 at 05:51 PM UTC
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well JDV says kids are in the 24 and 35 years old range now, so who knows for sure