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excontraindication wrote:
Correct. But they were huge in the 1979-1985 era, and made formative music for the demographic of this here forum.

Like I said, I didn't hear a full album in that timeframe, but I did go see them live when in high school.. Also, my French 1 teacher brought her son's album into school and played the song "Bastille Day" for us, which was pretty cool. That's all I got on Rush.

Space wrote:


O I probably never heard a Stones album in it's entirety until I was in my 30's, and an entire Beatles when I was in my 40's  (of course I heard all the popular tunes on classic rock radio.)

How is that possible? 

Yada wrote:

Space wrote:


O I probably never heard a Stones album in it's entirety until I was in my 30's, and an entire Beatles when I was in my 40's  (of course I heard all the popular tunes on classic rock radio.)

How is that possible?

My parents were born in 1939 and 1941 and weren't really into music. And the music they were into predated the Beatles. And I didn't start buying full albums until I was in college. And when i started college, I discovered alternative/indie/college rock, and scoffed at classic rocks bands like the Stones, Beatles, and Zeppelin. In my 20's and into my early 30's I moved onto alt-country/Americana, at which some time I started listening to the Stones. Pretty sure I held out on the Beatles until my 40's. Of course, now I feel like an idiot, but I've done things that were more idiotic than that.

Actually, there is an exception to that. I think I bought a Beatles LP in high school. I may even still have it. But I don't think this was an actual Beatles album proper, but a collection of some sort?

https://www.mercari.com/us/item/m85189025698/?gclsrc=aw.ds&&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=12877497079&utm_content=t0&adgroup=120335190446&network=g&device=c&merchant_id=130539023&product_id=m85189025698&product_id=529169588824&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIpNPP29DU9AIVrMmUCR2gMwShEAQYAiABEgJ3p_D_BwE

OMFG no wonder you hate the beatles.

Space wrote:

Yada wrote:

Space wrote:


O I probably never heard a Stones album in it's entirety until I was in my 30's, and an entire Beatles when I was in my 40's  (of course I heard all the popular tunes on classic rock radio.)

How is that possible?

My parents were born in 1939 and 1941 and weren't really into music. And the music they were into predated the Beatles. And I didn't start buying full albums until I was in college. And when i started college, I discovered alternative/indie/college rock, and scoffed at classic rocks bands like the Stones, Beatles, and Zeppelin. In my 20's and into my early 30's I moved onto alt-country/Americana, at which some time I started listening to the Stones. Pretty sure I held out on the Beatles until my 40's. Of course, now I feel like an idiot, but I've done things that were more idiotic than that.

Actually, there is an exception to that. I think I bought a Beatles LP in high school. I may even still have it. But I don't think this was an actual Beatles album proper, but a collection of some sort?

https://www.mercari.com/us/item/m85189025698/?gclsrc=aw.ds&&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=12877497079&utm_content=t0&adgroup=120335190446&network=g&device=c&merchant_id=130539023&product_id=m85189025698&product_id=529169588824&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIpNPP29DU9AIVrMmUCR2gMwShEAQYAiABEgJ3p_D_BwE

I think hutch has that album out in his shed.

That’s pretty atypical but some people have atypical experiences…that’s life


This demonstrates an unbelievable lack of curiosity and even lack of love for music!

I became a music junkie around 11 when my parents bought me my first stereo

Music and classic rock was big in school. You talked about it and shared with friends

If you were listening to new bands you must have been coming across Beatles and Stones covers left and right not to mention reading reviews of new bands that would have mentioned these acts as touchstones or interviews etc.

I hope you are bullshitting because otherwise….

I mean let’s say I heard Lucinda Williams do a cover of Nick Drake’s Which Will on her 1992 album around 1994. Next thing you know I would explore Drake’s music and have all his albums. Or let’s say I bought a Yo la tengo album in 1994 and it had a The Only Ones cover….very quickly I would nab a the only ones cd to hear the original. At worse I can’t imagine being exposed to covers of Beatles or Stones songs and not having sought out the originals. At best I sought them out cause I read about them everywhere. You couldn’t help but read and hear how great they were. Didn’t you go to college? Have friends with music collections? Libraries?

excontraindication wrote:
OMFG no wonder you hate the beatles.

Oh, I love the Beatles. I just got into them unusually late in life. I still probably prefer the Stones when it comes to that question.

Starsky wrote:
That’s pretty atypical


This demonstrates an unbelievable lack of curiosity and even lack of love for music.

I became a music junkie around 11 when my parents bought me my first stereo


If you were listening to new bands you must have been coming across Beatles and Stones covers left and right not to mention reading reviews of new bands that would have mentioned these acts as touchstones or interviews etc.

I hope you are bullshitting because otherwise….

I mean let’s say I heard Lucinda Williams do a cover of Nick Drake’s Which Will on her 1992 album around 1994. Next thing you know I would explore Drake’s music and have all his albums. At worse I can’t imagine being exposed to covers of Beatles or Stones songs and not having sought out the originals. At best I sought them out cause I read about them everywhere. You couldn’t help but read and hear how great they were. Didn’t you go to college? Have friends with music collections?

I think when compared to the general public, your obsessiveness with all things music is probably what's atypical. Not that that's a bad thing.

When I was 11, I was still going to a Baptist church that taught us rock music was the devil's music.

Most people who went to college probably have never listened to Nick Drake. Other than a commercial or two on tv.

Most people who love music have heard a Beatles or Stones album by the time they are 30.

Perhaps my error is assuming you love music? Or you were a late bloomer? When I was in college you could not have failed to hear led Zep albums.

I am definitely atypical but I meant atypical for a music lover. The kind of person who hangs out on a music related board.

I don’t think one is a music lover if one doesn’t have curiosity to listen to music. And that would be ok….

bellenseb wrote:
Helado Negro
9:30
5/4

Is this some sort of Spanish language Mountain Goats tribute band?

Kishi Bashi
Friday - 3/25/2022
930

Yes it is. I will be there

Finally Seth is booking the Latino rock I crave

Starsky wrote:
Yes it is. I will be there

Finally Seth is booking the Latino rock I crave

The English version:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaDturackPI

excontraindication wrote:

Starsky wrote:
Yes it is. I will be there

Finally Seth is booking the Latino rock I crave

The English version:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaDturackPI

God I love that early period stuff

Zopilote Machine…I was obsessed with that

Why is the early stuff always out of print?

Starsky wrote:
Most people who love music have heard a Beatles or Stones album by the time they are 30.

Perhaps my error is assuming you love music? Or you were a late bloomer? When I was in college you could not have failed to hear led Zep albums.

I am definitely atypical but I meant atypical for a music lover. The kind of person who hangs out on a music related board.

I don’t think one is a music lover if one doesn’t have curiosity to listen to music. And that would be ok….

When I got into "alternative" music in my early 20's. I saw the Beatles and the Stones as part of the evil classic rock cabal that alternative rock was being the alternative to (at least my my mind.) Besides, I figured I had heard the best of the Stones and Beatles already, having listened to classic rock radio as a teen (though not having to money to start a music collection.)

Then in my late 20's/early 30's, I took a deep dive into Americana. At some point, I did start going back and listening to the Rolling Stones, but I was much more interested in exploring the Gram Parsons catalog than the Jagger/Richards catalog. And the Beatles just seemed way too pop to bother with when i was listening to old timey country.

What is a "music lover" anyway? My wife calls herself a "music lover," yet listens to the same Internet Money songs over and over, hates live music, thinks (like most people under 30) there's no point in full length albums because singles are where it's at, and thinks music by Dylan, Cohen, Waits, etc is "music made by white men for old white men/music snobs."

Starsky wrote:

excontraindication wrote:

Starsky wrote:
Yes it is. I will be there

Finally Seth is booking the Latino rock I crave

The English version:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaDturackPI

God I love that early period stuff

Zopilote Machine…I was obsessed with that

Why is the early stuff always out of print?

Why are we comparing Helado Negro (great) to Mountain Goats (annoying voice)?

Space wrote:

Starsky wrote:

excontraindication wrote:

Starsky wrote:
Yes it is. I will be there

Finally Seth is booking the Latino rock I crave

The English version:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaDturackPI

God I love that early period stuff

Zopilote Machine…I was obsessed with that

Why is the early stuff always out of print?

Why are we comparing Helado Negro (great) to Mountain Goats (annoying voice)?

I’ve got a message for you….if I could only remember

Starsky wrote:
That’s pretty atypical but some people have atypical experiences…that’s life

This demonstrates an unbelievable lack of curiosity and even lack of love for music!

I became a music junkie around 11 when my parents bought me my first stereo

Music and classic rock was big in school. You talked about it and shared with friends

If you were listening to new bands you must have been coming across Beatles and Stones covers left and right not to mention reading reviews of new bands that would have mentioned these acts as touchstones or interviews etc.

I hope you are bullshitting because otherwise….

I mean let’s say I heard Lucinda Williams do a cover of Nick Drake’s Which Will on her 1992 album around 1994. Next thing you know I would explore Drake’s music and have all his albums. Or let’s say I bought a Yo la tengo album in 1994 and it had a The Only Ones cover….very quickly I would nab a the only ones cd to hear the original. At worse I can’t imagine being exposed to covers of Beatles or Stones songs and not having sought out the originals. At best I sought them out cause I read about them everywhere. You couldn’t help but read and hear how great they were. Didn’t you go to college? Have friends with music collections? Libraries?

Starsky wrote:
Most people who love music have heard a Beatles or Stones album by the time they are 30.

Perhaps my error is assuming you love music? Or you were a late bloomer? When I was in college you could not have failed to hear led Zep albums.

I am definitely atypical but I meant atypical for a music lover. The kind of person who hangs out on a music related board.

I don’t think one is a music lover if one doesn’t have curiosity to listen to music. And that would be ok….

hutch, you're coming across as very narrow-minded.  if someone isn't a music lover per your personal definition, then they aren't a music lover at all?  if they haven't met certain arbitrary milestones that you set (listened to entire albums of bands X, Y and Z, by age N1; ingested entire catalog same specific bands by age N2, etc.) they they automatically can't be a music lover?  what about folks who listen exclusively to jazz, or classical, and have never listened to an entire Stones album - are they not music lovers?

i dunno, to me the timeline that space laid out makes it understandable why he wouldn't have listened to an entire Stones or Beatles album until whenever he actually did.  he was listening to entire albums of other artists.  just because the Stones and the Beatles are at the center of your music world doesn't mean they have to be at the core of everyone else's, no?

Some people conflate being a lover/fan of something with being a researcher/student of that thing.

Or they just love it so much they want to know everything about it…


Anyways YMMV

I only spent 1985-1987 in the Bay Area but the classic rock stations regularly played album sides so it was hard not to hear albums.

Also, when albums by classic rock bands were reissued one would be tempted to pick them up.